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SO 2016-20 Publications Act 2016

Post by Abdoa on Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:34 am

An Act to regulate publications of decisions made by public bodies

CONSIDERING that publications do currently not have to be published in a specific manner;

BELIEVING that the publication of decisions made by public bodies is a right of Our Citizens, as they have the right to know what their bodies are doing;

CONSIDERING that there is a place for such publications on the NationStates Forums (The International Gazette);

BELIEVING that, by publicising decisions of Our public bodies, we can not only notify Our fellow Members, but also increase the focus and attention of other NationStates users to Our Region, and thus that the activity and membership of Our Region may rise;

BE IT ENACTED by and with the advice and consent of Parliament, and by the authority of the same, as follows:-


Article 1
Decisions made by Parliament, the President, any Minister (including the Prime Minister), or any body that is established by Act of Parliament, shall place a notification in the International Gazette on the NationStates Forums.

Article 2
The announcement of a decision regarding any Member of Our Region, not holding any office at that moment, does not have to be published in the International Gazette. Announcements of any decisions regarding any Member of Our Region, holding any office at that moment, but tho whom the announcement is directed to him or her and not the holder of that office, does not have to be published in the International Gazette unless otherwise stated by the President or Prime Minister.

Article 3
The following decisions have to be published:

1) Passage of Bills of Parliament into Acts of Parliament;
2) Decisions that dissolve or establish a (Member of) Parliament;
3) Decisions that resign or create a Cabinet Minister, including the Prime Minister, President, Founder, or any officeholder with administrative powers;
4) Decisions that confer an honour, a title, a style, et cetera upon any Member of Our Region.

Article 4
Parliament, by a simple majority vote, may also decide that decisions require publication somewhere else other than in the International Gazette.

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Re: SO 2016-20 Publications Act 2016

Post by Abdoa on Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:34 am

Please debate until Thursday December 15, 2016.

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Re: SO 2016-20 Publications Act 2016

Post by The Rise of the Reich on Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:43 am

"Decisions that confer an honour, a title, a style, et cetera upon any Member of Our Region" must be amended because the publications must be objective.
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Re: SO 2016-20 Publications Act 2016

Post by Nassau-Windsor on Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:51 am

The Rise of the Reich wrote:"Decisions that confer an honour, a title, a style, et cetera upon any Member of Our Region" must be amended because the publications must be objective.

But such publications would already be objective, as they just state than an honour has been conferred upon any Member. What is subjective about that?

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Re: SO 2016-20 Publications Act 2016

Post by Libertarian Democracy on Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:07 am

I think by "publications", Nassau means "official announcements"

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Re: SO 2016-20 Publications Act 2016

Post by Nassau-Windsor on Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:33 am

That is correct.

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Re: SO 2016-20 Publications Act 2016

Post by Abdoa on Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:02 am

Sorry, this is a bit late, but in Article 3.1, is the bill passed after the parliament votes, or after the President signs (presuming he does so), or should the sign/veto actions be reported separately. Either way, I think this should be specified.

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Re: SO 2016-20 Publications Act 2016

Post by Abdoa on Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:02 am

Debate is extended by two days till Saturday December 17, 2016.

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Re: SO 2016-20 Publications Act 2016

Post by Libertarian Democracy on Fri Dec 16, 2016 4:21 am

Why not just report the voting results for each bill, passed or not?

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Re: SO 2016-20 Publications Act 2016

Post by Abdoa on Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:34 am

Yes good idea.

I hereby table Amendment 1 to this bill:

To amend Article 3 to read as follows:

"The following decisions have to be published:

1) Results and outcome of all votes in Parliament, and of referendums on constitutional amendments;
2) Signature or Veto of any bill by the President;
3) Enacting of Bills of Parliament into Law;
4) Decisions that dissolve or establish a (Member of) Parliament;
5) Decisions that resign or create a Cabinet Minister, including the Prime Minister, President, Founder, or any officeholder with administrative powers;
6) Decisions that confer an honour, a title, a style, et cetera upon any Member of Our Region."

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Re: SO 2016-20 Publications Act 2016

Post by Nassau-Windsor on Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:21 am

Abdoa wrote:Yes good idea.

I hereby table Amendment 1 to this bill:

To amend Article 3 to read as follows:

"The following decisions have to be published:

1) Results and outcome of all votes in Parliament, and of referendums on constitutional amendments;
2) Signature or Veto of any bill by the President;
3) Enacting of Bills of Parliament into Law;
4) Decisions that dissolve or establish a (Member of) Parliament;
5) Decisions that resign or create a Cabinet Minister, including the Prime Minister, President, Founder, or any officeholder with administrative powers;
6) Decisions that confer an honour, a title, a style, et cetera upon any Member of Our Region."

Though I welcome the amendment and what it wishes to clarify, I think that this is already regulated by Article 1 that sais that "decisions" have to be published. In my opinion, when the President gives his veto or his sign, he makes the decision to either veto or approve the Bill.

However, to secure the intention of this Bill in the future, I will support the amendment if it is written down in this way:

"Article 3
The following decisions, among other such decisions,1 have to be published:

1) Results and outcomes of all votes in Parliament, and of referendums on constitutional amendments;
2) The Assent2 or Veto to any Bill of Parliament by the President;
3) Enacting Bills of Parliament into Act of Parliament3;
4) Decisions that dissolve or establish a (Member of) Parliament;
5) Decisions that resign or create a Cabinet Minister, including the Prime Minister, President, Founder, or any officeholder with administrative powers;
6) Decisions that confer an honour, a title, a style, et cetera upon any Member of Our Region."

Reasons:
1) The first edit is made to indicate that there are other decisions that have to be published as well.
2) Assent is the proper English word for the act of the President in which he signs the Bill in order to make it an Act of Parliament.
3) An Act of Parliament and [the] law have different meanings: an Act of Parliament is a legal document created and approved by Parliament, while the law is a combination of all rules (whether written down or not) within a jurisdiction.

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Re: SO 2016-20 Publications Act 2016

Post by Abdoa on Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:52 pm

I support the amended amendment.

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Re: SO 2016-20 Publications Act 2016

Post by Libertarian Democracy on Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:22 pm

How about instead of amendment 1, we just add a clause allowing parliament to pass a bill to add an event to the list of required publication.

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Re: SO 2016-20 Publications Act 2016

Post by Abdoa on Sat Dec 17, 2016 1:07 am

But the point of the amendment is that we clarify which decisions are to be published, now. We can amend the bill to the effect of LibDem's proposal as well though.

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Re: SO 2016-20 Publications Act 2016

Post by Libertarian Democracy on Sat Dec 17, 2016 6:00 pm

I guess I'm thinking of this kind of like many IRL nation's Controlled Substances laws. They define a list of things that are banned, and then allow the Legislature to add or remove items by a simple majority vote, which in our case would require a separate bill instead of an amendment due to SO#2016-3 ("Parliamentary Procedure Orders"), Article II, Order M. Why not implement a similar system in regards to publications?

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Re: SO 2016-20 Publications Act 2016

Post by Abdoa on Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:29 am

Good idea. I would support an amendment to the bill to that effect.

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Re: SO 2016-20 Publications Act 2016

Post by Libertarian Democracy on Sun Dec 18, 2016 2:57 am

How about this:


Article 3
Section A: Creation of the List of Events Requiring Publication
1) The "List of Events Requiring Publication" (hereinafter "List") is hereby created.
2) The List shall manifest all events that require publication pursuant to this Document.
3) a) Parliament may add or remove items from the List through an Act of Parliament.
b) Parliament has the highest authority governing additions and removals of items from the List.
c) i) The Cabinet Members may add items to the List so long as they pertain to their Ministry and are not a violation of Law.
ii) The Cabinet Members but may only remove List items which were previously added by their Ministry.
iii) The Ministries shall each devise a policy on required publications for their respective Ministries, and they shall be posted and pinned in their respective subforum.
iv) Parliament shall have the authority to remove any Ministry-added List item, add items to the List pertaining to the Ministries, and shall have the authority to regulate what kinds of events the Ministries, as a collective or specifically, can add to the List.

Section B: Initial Additions to the List of Events Requiring Publication
The following decisions, among other such decisions, have to be published:

1) Results and outcomes of all votes in Parliament, and of referendums on constitutional amendments;
2) The Assent or Veto to any Bill of Parliament by the President;
3) Enacting Bills of Parliament into Act of Parliament;
4) Decisions that dissolve or establish a (Member of) Parliament;
5) Decisions that resign or create a Cabinet Minister, including the Prime Minister, President, Founder, or any officeholder with administrative powers;
6) Decisions that confer an honour, a title, a style, et cetera upon any Member of Our Region."

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Re: SO 2016-20 Publications Act 2016

Post by Abdoa on Sun Dec 18, 2016 4:54 am

I support that as amendment 2, and hereby withdraw amendment 1.

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Re: SO 2016-20 Publications Act 2016

Post by Libertarian Democracy on Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:41 am

What is the procedure for amending bills in the debate hall?

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Re: SO 2016-20 Publications Act 2016

Post by Abdoa on Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:08 am

We vote on them in the Voting Chamber after the debate is over.

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Re: SO 2016-20 Publications Act 2016

Post by Abdoa on Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:48 pm

Debate ended on Saturday December 17, 2016, and Voting on the bill will commence on Monday December 19, 2016 after all amendments have been voted on.

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