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Post by Abdoa Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:37 am

"The Development Committee will hereby report on how a bill will affect regional activity" (SO 2017-11.IV.C.2).

The following members are hereby appointed to the Development Committee for the duration of the 12th Parliament until it is dissolved on October 31, 2017:
-The Rt. Hon. Minister of Jurisprudence Libertarian Democracy, MP LSM GSM, Committee Chair
-The Rt. Hon. Minister of Development Hashkin, MP LSM
-The Rt. Hon. President Lhistonia, MP
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Post by Libertarian Democracy Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:06 am

As Chair, I do call a meeting of this committee in order to discuss the ECC's proposed Constitutional Amendments.  They have debated seven items, and some of these proposals have had amendments tabled against them.  They will all be discussed.  Please remember that our mission is to predict how these amendments will impact regional activity if they were to be passed.  So choose one of three positions (Positive Effects, Negative Effects, No Significant Effects) and elaborate.  The most popular position (two or more of us in concurrence) will be included for the final report.  If there is a tie, all the tied positions will be included in the final report.

Because there is so much to discuss in so little time (we have an October 31st deadline for submitting our final report), the schedule will be very faced paced.  Please check this thread at least once daily, but preferably more often.

Discussion Schedule:
October 11th - 12th :: SO#2015-07 Position Adopted: No Significant Effects
October 13th - 14th :: SO#2015-11 & amendments Position Adopted: No Significant Effects
October 15th - 16th :: SO#2016-09 Position Adopted: No Significant Effects
October 17th - 18th :: SO#2017-21 Position Adopted: No Significant Effects
October 19th - 20th :: SO#2016-12 & amendments Position Adopted: Negative Effects
October 21st - 22nd :: SO#2017-64 Position Adopted: Negative Effects
October 23rd - 24th :: "Vice President Amendment"
October 25th to 30th :: Compilation of Final Report
October 31st :: Report Submitted to ECC


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Post by Libertarian Democracy Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:09 am

We will now begin discussion of the first item: SO#2015-07 ("Deputy Prime Minister Act")

TEXT:
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Post by Libertarian Democracy Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:20 am

I do not believe this proposal, if passed, would have any significant effect on regional activity. It creates a new position in the legislature, however that could only be filled by a sitting Senator. A similar position already exists: the Speaker pro Tempore of Parliament. If that position did not already exist, the argument could be made that this amendment would affect regional activity be keeping Parliament up and running when the PM goes inactive. However, being that this amendment would merely enshrine a piece of existing procedure in the Constitution, it is my opinion that it would not significantly affect regional activity.
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Post by Libertarian Democracy Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:44 am

Discussion for SO#2015-07 has concluded, and No Significant Effects will be adopted for the report.

We now move on to our next item, SO#2015-11.
text:
amendments:
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Post by Libertarian Democracy Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:57 am

This proposal would have no significant effects on regional activity and development. While it does narrow some of the provisions of the Constitution, it would in all likeliness not change the status quo. This proposal simply does not address topics that would impact the citizens' engagement.
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Post by Libertarian Democracy Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:03 am

It is unfortunate, that even with extra time, my colleagues still cannot participate in this most important discussion.  The next two items will be discussed simultaneously so we - or rather I - can stay on schedule.

SO#2016-09:
TEXT:

SO#2017-21:
TEXT:
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Post by Libertarian Democracy Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:22 am

SO#2016-09: This proposal would not have a significant effect on development. It is a mere Parliamentary procedure proposal and while it could increase the legislative output, the number of bills in the Legislative Archive does not directly lead to more regional activity - it would depend on the content of those bills.

SO#2017-21: This proposal would not have a significant effect on development. While it could potentially complicate or delay the appointment of the MoJ, or even lead to prolonged vacancies, such situations would likely be very rare.
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Post by Libertarian Democracy Sat Oct 21, 2017 2:26 am

I apologize for missing deadlines again; I've had a busy week.  Apparently, so have my fellow committee members.

SO#2016-12:
TEXT:

AMENDMENTS:

SO#2017-64:
TEXT:
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Post by Libertarian Democracy Sat Oct 21, 2017 2:36 am

Because these two proposals are essentially two versions of the same proposal, I am going to respond to both with only one judgement.

These proposals would carry negative effects for regional activity. While they do allow for the Founder to appoint administrative officials, the Founder is still fairly inactive as shown by the failure to execute most of the administrative provisions of the DISCORD Act a full three months after its assent. In addition, these proposals do not address previous legislation. If enacted, these proposals could void dozens of Acts, including development-focused Acts. These proposals would harm our regional development, and it is imperative that they are not enacted.
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Post by CR Lhistonia Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:38 am

I agree in all points above, stated by my colleague. I'm against both proposals.
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Post by Libertarian Democracy Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:20 am

Discussion for SO#2016-12 and SO#2017-64 has concluded, and the position of Negative Effects will be adopted for both.

We will now begin discussion regarding the "Vice President Amendment". This is the final item to discuss.
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Post by Libertarian Democracy Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:23 am

This proposal would have No Significant Effects. It simply addresses the issue of potential Presidential inactivity, and would not affect many members of the Union at all. It does open another position in the government, however just one. It therefore would not in any major way affect the regional development or general activity.
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Post by CR Lhistonia Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:19 am

I agree. I myself created this draft not with the objective of development, but to prevent the bill approval process being blocked by the President being inactive. It's more of a security measure.
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Post by Libertarian Democracy Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:27 am

Thank you to all my fellow committee members for participating in this important discussion. In the coming days, I will draft a report, forward it to the ECC, and post a copy here. With that, I do adjourn this meeting.
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Post by Libertarian Democracy Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:19 am

Delegates of the First Extraordinary Constitutional Convention,

Over the course of fourteen days, the Development Committee of the Parliament of the Union discussed and debated the various proposals we were sent, as mandated by Article 12 of SO#2017-63 (“Motion to Convene an Extraordinary Constitutional Convention”).  This report, compiled by the Chairman of our Committee, details the committee’s findings.  Each proposal was analyzed and given one of three classifications based on how it would likely affect regional development and activity: Negative Effects, Positive Effects, or No Significant Effects.  In short, our determinations are as follows:

SO#2015-07 (“Deputy Prime Minister Act”): No Significant Effects
SO#2015-11 (“Reducing Constitutional Ambiguity”) & Amendments: No Significant Effects
SO#2016-09 (“Ending Limitations on Debate Numbers”): No Significant Effects
SO#2017-21 (“Joint Appointment of the Minister of Jurisprudence Act”): No Significant Effects
SO#2016-12 (“The Region’s Administrative Branch 2016”) & Amendments: Negative Effects
SO#2017-64 (“The 2017 Constitutional Amendment Act on the Administrative Branch”): Negative Effects
“Vice President Amendment”: No Significant Effects

Below are the complete positions adopted by the Committee Members:

SO#2015-07:
This proposal, if passed, would have any significant effect on regional activity. It creates a new position in the legislature, however that could only be filled by a sitting Senator. A similar position already exists: the Speaker pro Tempore of Parliament. If that position did not already exist, the argument could be made that this amendment would affect regional activity be keeping Parliament up and running when the PM goes inactive. However, being that this amendment would merely enshrine a piece of existing procedure in the Constitution and would not significantly affect regional activity.

SO#2015-11 & Amendments:
This proposal would have no significant effects on regional activity and development. While it does narrow some of the provisions of the Constitution, it would in all likeliness not change the status quo. This proposal simply does not address topics that would impact the citizens' engagement.

SO#2016-09:
This proposal would not have a significant effect on development. It is a mere Parliamentary procedure proposal and while it could increase the legislative output, the number of bills in the Legislative Archive does not directly lead to more regional activity - it would depend on the content of those bills.

SO#2017-21:
This proposal would not have a significant effect on development. While it could potentially complicate or delay the appointment of the MoJ, or even lead to prolonged vacancies, such situations would likely be very rare.

SO#2016-12 & Amendments & SO#2017-64:
These proposals would carry negative effects for regional activity. While they do allow for the Founder to appoint administrative officials, the Founder is still fairly inactive as shown by the failure to execute most of the administrative provisions of the DISCORD Act a full three months after its assent. In addition, these proposals do not address previous legislation. If enacted, these proposals could void dozens of Acts, including development-focused Acts. These proposals would harm our regional development, and it is imperative that they are not enacted.

“Vice President Amendment”:
This proposal would have No Significant Effects. It simply addresses the issue of potential Presidential inactivity, and would not affect many members of the Union at all. It does open another position in the government, however just one. It therefore would not in any major way affect the regional development or general activity.
This proposal was drafted not with the objective of development, but to prevent the bill approval process being blocked by the President being inactive. It's more of a security measure.

A copy of this report will be posted in the Development Committee subforum.  Upon the submission of this report to the First extraordinary Constitutional Convention, the Committee inquiry into these proposed amendments is officially concluded.

October 30th, 2017
The Right Honourable Minister of Jurisprudence Libertarian Democracy, RO MP LSM GSM, Chair of the Development Committee of the Parliament of the Union and Chair of the First Extraordinary Constitutional Convention.
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