[Debate] Position of Speaker in Parliament

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[Debate] Position of Speaker in Parliament

Post by Nassau-Windsor on Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:44 pm

Fellow Members, with the 9th Parliament just convened, I think it is a good time to address an important subject: what is the exact position of the Speaker in Parliament? By this, I do not refer to the duties or powers of the Speaker, but the holder. Our current Right Honourable Speaker, is Sepharich. Although he was elected Prime Minister by the Member-States of the World Assembly residing in Our Region, he is not a Member of Parliament - which he must chair.

What do you think about this situation? Should the position of Speaker be separated from that of Prime Minister? Should a Speaker that is not at the same time a Member of Parliament appoint a Deputy Speaker?

Please debate!

[I do not have enough time to make a detailed post about my own opinion on this matter as of now. I will make a post with my own opinion at a later moment.]

Edit: With Sepharich now being a Senator, the issue has been resolved for now. Though, I would still carry on with the debate as this might become a problem for the future, when we could have more members than positions and then a PM could be elected yet not being elected to Parliament at all.

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Re: [Debate] Position of Speaker in Parliament

Post by Sepharich on Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:16 pm

I was thinking of making official to take this post instead of Prime Minister, based on the american congressional system, called the President of Parliament.
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Re: [Debate] Position of Speaker in Parliament

Post by Abdoa on Sat Mar 11, 2017 1:16 am

I am currently writing a bill which would have Parliament elect a Speaker of Parliament at the beginning of each session, to whom the PM could at any moment and for any period of time delegate his parliamentary, and only his parliamentary duties. This approach is good in two ways:
1) it allows the PM to focus on the government and the WA, which I must admit were rather neglected compared to their full potential during my term, because I spent all of my time presiding over parliament, which I considered to be the most touchy part of the office because of the conditions in which I was installed - completely inactive and dysfunctional parliament and former PM. If the PM doesn't have to do that, he is freed from a rather time-consuming exercise.
2) Having this be a delegated and revocable post eliminates the huge problem of having to rewrite the entire law-corpus and/or have a constitutional amendment passed.

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Re: [Debate] Position of Speaker in Parliament

Post by Abdoa on Sat Mar 11, 2017 1:17 am

I do strongly feel though that if Parliament is to have a Speaker, he/she should be elected by parliament.

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Re: [Debate] Position of Speaker in Parliament

Post by Nassau-Windsor on Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:26 am

I agree with Abdoa that a Speaker [the Senate] should be elected by that Parliament if there is to be such an office. And personally, I do think that it is wise to have such an office. We need an authority to announce the results of votes, and to regulate the (terms of) the various stages that a proposal of any kind put to Parliament can be in.

However, like The Honourable Jacob Rees-Mogg1 said, it is wise that, if a Speaker wishes to do so, he should continue to be in that office.2 I do know that the United Kingdom has a different set of Laws, however, I do think that the principles he sets out are the same we (should) use here.

I would also like to add that the United Kingdom has the tradition to elect a Speaker that is not from the party that is at that moment of vote in power. This is to ensure that there shall be a neutral ground on which the debate relies. I too think that, if a Speaker is elected, he should renounce all his links to any specific party if he is a member of one of them for the time he shall serve as Speaker.



1) https://www.parliament.uk/biographies/commons/mr-jacob-rees-mogg/4099
2) Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6G6yQXyFtk

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Re: [Debate] Position of Speaker in Parliament

Post by Sepharich on Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:45 pm

Nassau-Windsor wrote:I agree with Abdoa that a Speaker [the Senate] should be elected by that Parliament if there is to be such an office. And personally, I do think that it is wise to have such an office. We need an authority to announce the results of votes, and to regulate the (terms of) the various stages that a proposal of any kind put to Parliament can be in.

However, like The Honourable Jacob Rees-Mogg1 said, it is wise that, if a Speaker wishes to do so, he should continue to be in that office.2 I do know that the United Kingdom has a different set of Laws, however, I do think that the principles he sets out are the same we (should) use here.

I would also like to add that the United Kingdom has the tradition to elect a Speaker that is not from the party that is at that moment of vote in power. This is to ensure that there shall be a neutral ground on which the debate relies. I too think that, if a Speaker is elected, he should renounce all his links to any specific party if he is a member of one of them for the time he shall serve as Speaker.



1) https://www.parliament.uk/biographies/commons/mr-jacob-rees-mogg/4099
2) Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6G6yQXyFtk

I quite like that idea.
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